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690 Discussion / Re: 2014 690.couple of questions.
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:01:22 pm »
Themz is awful purdy mirrors.  I look forward to reading yer ree-port if they ever show up.  It takes time to get the good sh-tuff.  I know this all too well.  Now down to business.  I got an extre touring windscreen and a Seat Concepts full height saddle if'n your interested.  Being we is local buds (scooter trash), I thought I'd tell you 'bout it before I dump the sh-tuff on ebay.  Later bood-e-roooow. Bartlioni.  You know where I'm at.

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I just can't bring myself to seriously consider it. I keep getting that shiver as if its a little cold out an I suddenly realize I need to take a whizz.  Besides, I ride 50/50.  Since I went with the 16 tooth sprocket on the front, and discovered 115+,  I just don't think there's more that I could wish for.  I do realize your mileage may vary of course.  And the KTM 690 Enduro R is the swiss army knife of scoots.  If'n I wuz rolling up and down those 45 degree hills that fardrifter is rolling over, then my priorities would be adjusted accordingly.  But I'm an old war dog that raises hell on the road, chases deer across the trails, and laughs maniacally when I go airborne a few piddly feet into the air.  I'm a simple feller with simple needs.  Haul most royal butt, never let a deer get away with thinking it is smarter than me, and always keep the front wheel up when I go airborne.  Hell yeah!  Be well and remember that I'm out there.

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Okay, I'm starting to shiver a little less on this gearbox mod deal. (I whizzed earlier)  I still have no first-hand knowledge of the gear system you described other than to note that they offer a surface finishing treatment above and beyond the standard gears they supply for an additional amount to the insane price for the standard rig.  But if you gotta hab it you gotta hab it.  I understand these things perfectly.  I ask only this (deez):  That if you do the deal, you will post in excruciating detail every step you went through to install this gear set.  I'm talking pics of the scoot with its guts hanging out for all the world to see.  We'll keep it within the family of course.  No need to reveal our guts to the outside world beyond our beloved discussion site.

Right on about KTM needing to offer a serious adventure version of the incredible 690 engine.  I've swapped out tires (50/50) and added a tooth to the front (16 now) and I'm thrilled with my 690e, but I could be talked into even more bandwidth.  I wonder if the factory gear ratios are a by-product of the EPA mandates for emission standards down here in the colonies.  Pure speculation.  I considered the 1190 Adventure R, and quite frankly, I'm still considering it a lot with a little smirk on my face.  What if I wuz to sell the Harley and.......   But 36mpg mate?  Im just not sure I can do it.  There's me self-respect to consider.  Oh, and one final thought:

Since none of us appears to have first-hand knowledge of your original question, I recommend that you call the manufacturer and tell them what you need, and see if they have answers to scratch every itch.  Can't hurt.  And don't forget to ask them about why a gear set this expensive has an optional surface treatment that costs even more.  Be well and remember:  I'm out there.

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690 Pics / Re: 690 Rides in Australia
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:13:25 am »
Man, that was just beautiful.  Makes me feel proud that being a hooligan transcends nationality.

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I looked into it and read you have to crack the case open, which is like performing open heart surgery to a simple feller like me.  They'z bound to be scars.  I shivered like I does when its a little cold out and I realize that I needs to take a whizz, and then I quickly chickened out on the gearbox mods.  I'll keep working my mods with sprockets.  And about that.  I always try to add teeth.  If I want more low end grunt, then I add teeth the the back sprocket.  If I want more top-end then I add teeth to the front sprocket.  The reason why is that I figure sprockets last longer with more teeth.  But then I could be full of crap.  Let us know what you find out brother.

:)

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690 Discussion / KTM Touring Windscreen - Worth the bother? You decide.
« on: August 21, 2014, 08:52:39 pm »
This is my final upgrade for the year, which is a lie I tell myself every time I throw money at something new and cool for my bike.  Earlier today I installed the KTM Touring Windscreen onto my 2014 Enduro R. After three weeks on backorder it finally showed up.  Installation was easy.  You have to drill four 9mm holes and I have a drill press.  But wait a minute!  Deez is what's left of America.  We don't got no stinkin' 9mm drill bits around here!  Try Canada.  I worked it out.  Use a 23/64 drill bit that comes standard with most bit kits and you'll be just fine.  That's one tick below a 3/8 bit.  It looks very cool on the bike and hides those cables that roll over the top of your digital display nicely.  (Smoked black tint)  But if you want to be able to gaze off to the sides of the tranquil highway at nature, rolling along without a care in the world such as that ugly fat cicada locking in on you and busting you upside the forehead, then this windscreen isn't going to make you happy.  I can't say its totally worthless from a functional perspective because it does a respectable job of reducing wind pressure against your chest given its meager size.  But most importantly, it looks cool and it only cost 65 smucks.  Very cool with the trick folding Touratach mirrors I installed a few days ago.  Its a keeper.  But next time I want to gaze off at nature while tooling down the tranquil highway, I think I'll take the Harley.  Them Cadi-dids can hurt ya' ma'an.  Be well and enjoy the greatest motorcycle of all time.

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So based on what I'm seeing by having gone up to a 16 on the front, its basically like I removed the bottom gear and added another gear to the top.  My minimum comfortable speed in sixth gear with the 15 tooth was ~42mph before I needed to downshift to keep the motor from bogging down.  With the 16 tooth its now right around 52mph.  So I'm guessing the 14 tooth you guys are using would be like adding a gear to the bottom and removing one from the top.  Its interesting that the gear ratios don't have as dramatic an effect on gas mileage as they do on engine rpms.  I guess it takes 'x' amount of go juice to cover 'y' amount of ground somewhat independently of rpms.  Just speculating. 

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690 Discussion / Re: Progressive Handlebar Damping System (PHDS) Upgrade
« on: August 20, 2014, 05:32:17 pm »
Oh, very cool.  I studied the pics of the Scotts rig and it looked like the vibration damper on the one I was looking at stretched out over the tops of the un-lowered fork tubes.  That's good news that it does fit.  After riding mine some more today I'm thinking my vibration reduction is more like 75% than 50%.  I hear the flex bars make a difference too but I haven't tried them.  Since I've gone with the PHDS setup, I'm going to go with the KTM steering damper because the clamps I've got index onto the mounts on the steering damper (like the factory clamps do on the triple tree where there's a ridge along the outer side for the clamps to align with.  That's good to know about the Scotts rig though.

 :)

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690 Discussion / Progressive Handlebar Damping System (PHDS) Upgrade
« on: August 19, 2014, 06:32:49 pm »
As promised at the tail end of my last post, here is my review of the KTM PHDS.  I'm going to cut to the chase.  It was easy to install and cut vibration felt through the bars by 50%.  I now feel much more vibration through the foot pegs than I do the bars.  They may be pricy at $200, but I have to give them a highly recommended rating.  I'm using the green (soft) elastomers I had to purchase separately.  It comes only with the yellow (medium) elatomers that I kept reading people moan and bxtch saying it didn't make much of a difference on vibration. And then a bunch of other guys would reply saying: "Yeah, but if you go with the green elatomers you will be happy happy happy.  Did you get that memo?"  I also installed the half-inch risers that came with them and I like the seating posture better as well.  I had previously installed a pair of those FAAST  bar end dampers ($60) and couldn't tell any significant difference in vibration.  But the PHDS system is effective.  If you plan to go with a Scott steering damper, then get the handlebar damper made for it.  If you're not planning to use a steering damper, or you plan to use one of the other brands like I do next spring, then get these handlebar dampers.  You'll be glad you did if you spend much time on the highway.  Note: If you lower your bike with a koubalink and raise the forks tubes up in the triple tree like I did, then I don't think the scotts steering damper rig will fit your scoot.  Be well, and always keep a weather eye out.  I'm out there.

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I've been in the process of making mods to my KTM to support the fact that most of my riding is on the street.  Here's the latest.

1. Tires - For the street, gravel, or well defined trails I ride on, I decided on going with a true 50/50 tire set.  So I went with the Heidenau K-60 Scout tires.  (Note there is also a 70/30 version for the rear, but I went with the 50/50 version)  These tires work great, they're very versatile, and they stick to the road like glue.  They are also reputed to last for 9 - 12 thousand miles.  Very happy with these tires.   Perfect for my application.

2.  Mirrors - I went with the Touratech folding mirrors.  When folded out, I now have radically better visibility of what's behind me and they are less prone to vibration than the cheesy stock mirrors.  I had to glue one of the stock mirror lenses to the mirror's frame (like it was supposed to be already) in order to keep it from rattling.  Not a good mirror.  I highly recommend the Touratech folding mirrors. 

3.  Front Sprocket - Last but not least (for this post) I swapped out the 15 tooth front sprocket with a 16 tooth version.  Again, since most of my riding is on street, gravel, or well-defined trails, I was willing to sacrifice a little bit of acceleration and low-end grunt to get smoother street performance and top-end.  Note that the factory gear ratio is 15/45.  I've now set mine at 16/45.  For comparison, the Duke, which uses the same motor, runs 16/42.  Don't go over 16 teeth.  There isn't room for it with the factory sprocket cover.  Changing front sprockets is easy, and I can always go back to the 15 tooth version in less than 30 minutes.  What difference did it make?  For a given level of engine output (in 6th gear) I'm now moving around ten miles an hour faster.  Speed transitions as I roll on/off the throttle at highway speeds are much less abrupt, but contrary to popular opinion, I'm not seeing a significant increase in gas mileage.  Perhaps I'll see a little difference after I run a couple of more tanks of gas through it, but the initial tank indicated a wash.  I expected this as the reports I've seen on the Duke's mileage is virtually identical to the Enduro R.

Have fun.  I hope this post is helpful to those of you who spend more time in conditions short of full-up motorcross.  My configuration didn't stop me from giving a respectable chase after an albino Doe (really) across a huge grass field last Saturday.  Next time I'll be giving a report on the Progressive Handlebar Damping System (Due for delivery today).

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Yup,

My 2014 KTM 690 Enduro R and I met at a dealership on 6/13 and got married right there on the spot.  850 miles later she's had her initial service and is running better than ever.  She has blistering acceleration and incredible responsiveness due to her low weight and high power.  Her steering was a might bit twitchy at first, but I lowered her with a Koubalink and now her steering is very stable.  That made the biggest difference, and now I can hold her up comfortably.  So I've certified 'Thumper' fit for active duty in ground operations involving high levels of, shall we say, mischief.  I'm due for some of that mischief now so I'll close.  I hope you guys are enjoying your 690s as much as I am.  My Harley is jealous, but lately I just can't stay off my 690.  That acceleration is addictive.  Bwaaaaaaaaa.

 ;D

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690 Discussion / Re: KTM 690R Koubalink install completed
« on: July 18, 2014, 11:03:37 am »
I suppose technically the front is a little higher with respect to the rear now, but the undercarriage looks level just like it did before when I look at it from the side.  (Doesn't factor in sag of course which I left at factory settings)  I'm still planning to put two inch vibration reduction risers on it to raise the bar a little so I don't have to bend my neck so much when I'm riding.  And the stability and precision of my steering has really improved.

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690 Discussion / Re: First Service
« on: July 16, 2014, 02:40:00 pm »
Sounds like some of you guys have been getting some serious run-around on the initial servicing.  I just had mine done last weekend and my dealer charged me $160.  But the point I want to make is that you really really should let the dealer do it even if you change the oil yourself.  Here's what they found:  The rear brake return spring was busted.  One of the covers was leaking oil because the screws weren't torqued to spec.  They went around and checked torque on all the external screws once a problem was detected.  They pinged all the spokes and made sure they're all singing the same note.  (Not actually part of the servicing).  Checked for proper chain tension and lubed it.  Basically went over the bike with a fine-tooth comb and made sure it was up to spec before they gave it back to me.  So if you're not checking all this stuff out when you get your service done then I recommend getting it checked out somehow. 

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690 Discussion / KTM 690R Koubalink install completed
« on: July 15, 2014, 09:36:04 am »
When I got my 2014 690 enduro, it stood so tall I felt like  was a ballerina (sans the pink tu tu) on tippy-toes holding it up.  But even without the tu tu its hard to look cool at redlights on tippy-toes holdling your bike up.  It also felt like I was riding around on an extension ladder given my 5 foot 9 height and 29 inch length pant size.  So after I installed the koubalink, and lowered the front the prescribed 3/4 inches, the bike handles substantially better through the twisties.  That twitchy steering that made me think I was going to need a Scotts Steering Dampener is much more solid now in side winds and around trucks on the road.  So that left me with the side kickstand to deal with.  As I lowered the rear 1 + 5/8 I hacked off 2.5 inches of kickstand and made a new foot using some 1/8 "weldable" mild steel I got at Lowes.  If you lower it one inch then only hack two inches off.  In either case keep the foot angle close to the original foot angle and you'll be fine.  Then I took the kickstand to a weld shop that charged me $20 and took three minutes to weld my new foot on.  They sprayed some black paint on it for me and so I made them take $30 for the deal.  They told me to bring them something bigger next time.  I agreed.  So, I have to say that the koubalink mod is very worth it based on my experiences.  I'm a happy ex-ballerina (still no tu tu).

 ;D

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