690 Enduro Forum

Technical => Airbox, Pipes, and Programmers => Topic started by: Guymcfly on February 20, 2015, 10:07:38 pm

Title: Interestings things applicable to 690's
Post by: Guymcfly on February 20, 2015, 10:07:38 pm
Another of those things I occaision come across on the net....I never have any financial interest in these things btw...
http://www.sol2.be/Performance/ENG/Theory/page.html
Title: Re: Interestings things applicable to 690's
Post by: the_trooper08 on February 25, 2015, 10:27:38 pm
The theory makes sense. I wonder how it works in practice
Title: Re: Interestings things applicable to 690's
Post by: GSP on March 09, 2015, 07:54:47 am
The article is a joke, you must use wide band O2 and not a narrow band Lambda sensor for closed loop control

PC5 with autotune is the way to go, it is full time all the time closed loop control with wide band O2 sensor
Title: Re: Interestings things applicable to 690's
Post by: Guymcfly on May 05, 2015, 06:46:01 am
Can you explain the situation a little more for all us loop dumbasses?

The only thing I know about what you talk about is that my O2 sensors have been disconnected and closed via tune ECU and plugged.
Other than that I'm a little in the dark as I'm sure many others are.
Title: Re: Interestings things applicable to 690's
Post by: GSP on June 01, 2015, 07:32:21 am
wide band 02 closed loop control:

In simple terms, closed loop control takes air/fuel ratio measurements form the exhaust mounted Bosch wide band sensor (very high rate highly accurate), this data is analyzed by the PC5/auto tune and adjust the fuel delivery to the injectors real time all the time based on the air/fuel ratio you select in the PC5....

narrow band lambda sensors do NOT have the sample rate and accuracy to gather data fast enough to feed back changes to air/fuel in real time

I run 13:1 AFR

turbo or supercharged motors need 12 to 12.5:1 AFR for gasoline, alcohol motors run 6:1 AFR

this guy does a half way good job of explaining it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QwT81RuGWw