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Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« on: August 19, 2015, 05:07:09 pm »
Can someone with a non California 2015 please take a pic of the VIN plate and post it here?

A bit late to be asking this because a Georgia bike, I just bought, is about to ship to me, and I would hope for some peace of mind.  Until recently, the consensus is that all of the 2015's meet every state's requirements, incl California; and, that it will be a simple matter to register an out of state bike here.  But now, I am beginning to here some disagreement.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Steve

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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2015, 03:09:44 pm »
is it a brand new unregistered bike or a used bike?  a used bike has to have at least 7500 miles on it to register it in ca. or its considered "new". new bikes need to have the CARB sticker or stamp.  its either on the frame somewhere or ive seen them stamped into the exhaust can.... i'd check mine for you, but I'm at work and the bike is at home.... if you're buying from a dealer, they should know whether its a 50 state bike or not. pretty sure they all are, I haven't heard of anyone with a 15 that doesn't have all the smog crap on their bike..

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr29
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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2015, 03:49:44 pm »
did some digging and found this... if i'm reading it correctly, all 15 LC4 690's are to be manufactured the same, emissions wise.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2015/ktmmotorrad_m0230119_690_0d8_hn.pdf

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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2015, 10:03:31 pm »
Slap, Thank you very much for taking the time research and post this information. 

First, I will be the second owner, but yes CA will consider it a new bike, 43mi, and I am aware of the 7500mi issue; and, I am prepared to submit to the inspection at the DMV, where I assume they will confirm it has turn signals and a headlight, etc, and also look at the inspection plate.

A couple years ago I thought I had a solid deal on an Oregon 2011 fe 570, owner confirmed it was CA legal for street use.  Of course, after driving 400 miles, it was all over in an instant.  The plate clearly read legal in CA for off road use only.

I think the info you found is encouraging - still digesting it; but, if it's not too inconvenient, could you please confirm the wording on your bike's inspection plate.

Anyway, the bike left Georgia today so I'll know in a week or so.

Thanks again your time and effort - pretty amazing effort, really.

Steve
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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2015, 03:58:57 pm »
i can check it when I get home in a few hours (630-7 pst)... but everything i'm seeing online is saying that all late model street legal ktm's are 50 state bikes. pretty sure you're safe

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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2015, 04:45:22 pm »
Only if it is convenient.  And, don't worry if it doesn't get done, for any reason.

I know it's silly for a 64 yr old to worry like this, but I have a little problem...........I, er, told HER that is was a 50 states bike; and, since the bike won't be here for a week, that will give me some time to find a just-in-case something at the jewlelry store.

So, actually, my life is kinda in your hands.

Thanks again.

Steve

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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 06:25:48 pm »
well, that was easy. just made a call to my sales guy and friend at my local KTM dealer, he confirmed that all 2015 KTM 690's are definitely 50 state bikes.

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2015, 10:52:57 pm »
Thanks so much.  You have made my wait a far less anxious one.

Just wish it didn't take so long for the bike to get to the S.F. area.

Thanks again.

Steve

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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2015, 03:21:03 am »
Slap, I finally got the bike licensed.

The DMV verification process was quite entertaining - part drama, part comedy, and part suspense.  I think there was only one guy who really knew his stuff, but he was using my bike as an opportunity to train a couple others, one of which was trying really hard to make things work, and the other who seemed determined to fail the bike.  Then there was the guy more senior to all three who immediately declared the 690 a dirt bike only that probably wasn't meant for the street.

Fortunately, that one guy who had an understanding of bikes and the verification procedure returned to help educate the trainees, clearly much to the dissatisfaction of the power tripper who wanted to check that FAIL box.  And, he deftly dealt with the more senior guy so as not to embarass him in front of several of his staff.

But, three hours later, and after all the cluster ....er....play was over, I got the approval, and left with registration and plate in hand.

One suggestion to others facing this daunting task, consider taking the bike to an outlying town near hills and trails and close to the California border. Once, I was considering bringing in a Husaberg from Oregon, and while driving through the town of Mt. Shasta, we stopped for gas and noticed we had lost the license plate off our bike trailer.  Fortunately, they had a DMV office (not all towns do), so we drove over to get a new license. 

There was NOBODY in line, yes you read that right, and it took like five minutes to do the paperwork and get our new license.  We explained the purpose of our trip to the lady helping us, and she told us to stop in on our way back and she will do the verification for us.  She said that being close to the border, and in an area with a lot of dirt and dual purpose bikes, they do a lot of this and they know exactly what to look for on the bikes.  Either way, Ca legal or not, she said it takes about 15 minutes to do the walk around and the paperwork.

Anyway, Slap I want to thank you again.

Steve

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Re: Are all U.S. 2015 Enduros 50 States Bikes?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2015, 03:35:00 pm »
cool deal, glad it worked out!