Because the Klim Badlands pro jacket I wear has weather seals on the sleeves that most jackets don't have (You listening Rusty), I should have ordered the Klim Element short gloves and saved 30 smucks. ....For 230 smucks I better have!
When weather is bad enough, I wear gauntlet gloves and cinch them down on the outside of my jacket cuffs so water doesn't blow up my sleeves. I don't know if the weather seals are anything more than windproof. They don't appear to be made of GoreTex.
$230!! Klim makes the best stuff around, and they sure know it.