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Air filter help
« on: May 09, 2014, 07:42:22 am »
Need urgent help/suggestions.   I 'just' realized the air filter is a pleated paper style filter.... not very conducive to dirt/dusty trail riding.   What options are there (and that do not require any 'mapping' changes)?
I need to figure something out quick... going trail riding next Thursday.   (Maybe it will just be muddy!) 
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2014, 12:21:59 pm »
I use a K&N Filter. I heard some people say they don't filter dust that well but I haven't had any problems.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2014, 12:23:55 pm »
I got the UNI KTM 690 High Flow Air Filter from KTMtwins http://www.ktmtwins.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=UNI+KTM+690+High+Flow+Air+Filter


And cut a some Flat UNI filter from Amazon. I ordered 3/8 & 5/8 both, but used the 3/8".  Cut it to fit the outside of the bottom part of the filter housing, so the top will hold it in place.  Cut out the corners for the screws.  Be sure to get the two tabs at the front put in place.


Now I can use regular filter oil.  It was in place for the Big Bend ride; there was very little dust on the flat filter where the snout feeds-in.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2014, 12:29:41 pm »
What options are there (and that do not require any 'mapping' changes)?

I'm told that the 690 only requires mapping changes if you modify the air box; a new foam filter alone won't change it so much that a 15 minute idle won't allow the bike to adjust itself.  Here's an excerpt from an earlier post:

I forgot to mention, once the pipe is physically installed, you have to conduct a 15-minute idle from a cold start.  This causes the KTM's fuel injection computer to reset itself to the pipe's new parameters.

The procedure is just as simple as it sounds.

1. Start the bike when it's cold (as in first thing in the morning).
2. Start a stopwatch.  KTM designed this process to take 15 minutes.  Be patient.
3. Do NOT touch the throttle AT ALL, or the process is reset and you'll have to start over.
4. When the 15 minutes are up, don't touch the throttle, kill the engine using the switch on the right side of the handlebar, then kill power with the key.
5. You're done!  Start your bike and go for a ride.

3 Tips:

1. For peace of mind, you may want to use a household fan to blow at the radiator (your bike will get hot while sitting at idle).
2. This process is only for fine tuning; it can't compensate for something as drastic as opening the airbox.  So until there's a viable option for messing with the 2014's computer, leave the air box alone--you've plenty of power!
3. Though I've not had to do this yet (living in Houston), I'm told that this process can also help even out idle issues while navigating extreme changes in elevation.  So for those of you crossing the Rockies, this might be a worth keeping in mind.


All this said, I went on a 12-hour desert rally a few months ago.  There were plenty of participants, so I was choking on dust all day.  Afterwards, I popped the air box cover and saw that my filter was still looking new.  I STILL haven't bothered changing it.  So your concern about the filter may be unnecessary.

If you insist on a new filter, there are several out there but I don't have any direct experience.  I had a UniFilter on my last bike and it worked fine.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2014, 12:39:24 pm »
I made my airbox & Wings mods at the same time.  Did the 15 minute thing & have had no problems.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2014, 03:39:31 pm »
Thanks for the replies - I ended up getting the Unifilter pod filter (dual pod looking one) - Part # NU-1417ST.  Thank goodness I called vendors before ordering - even though they listed 'x' days shipping, they would not actually process the shipment for 2-3 days!  Really?? - found a vendor that had them and could ship today (and pretty good price also) - hopefully it will be here Tuesday!
I also talked to a guy at Unifilter who was very helpful.  He said it was basically the same filter as the 'orange Aussie filter' but much cheaper (Aussie one is apparently like $140)  Normal foam filter care, nothing special required.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 10:01:30 pm »
Truck11, did the filter seem to fit pretty well in your 2014? I was reading the post another guy made saying his uni filter actually bottomed out on the bottom of the air box. I've always ran foam filters in my regular dirt bikes, and it's kind of bugging me to only have one filter that isn't reusable for my 690 right now. Lol.

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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 09:38:18 pm »
I did not really notice it bottoming out... and so what if it does - still a good filter.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2014, 12:35:15 pm »
Haha good deal. I was just a bit worried that our 14s had a different air box or something after reading that dudes post and then seeing none of the websites listed the 14 for the uni. Thanks for the reply, man. I'll probably be ordering one myself.

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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2014, 09:44:59 pm »
Haha good deal. I was just a bit worried that our 14s had a different air box or something after reading that dudes post and then seeing none of the websites listed the 14 for the uni. Thanks for the reply, man. I'll probably be ordering one myself.
NO- do NOT use the UNI US 1417 filter in the '14 as it has a shallower box than previous model years - you will bottom out on the bottom of the box, the filter will not lie flat on the opening and you will pull out your brass airbox inserts trying to get it to smoosh down. KTMtwins has removed the '14 from their compatibility chart. Use instead AU 1417, which still bottoms out but only a little bit.

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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2014, 10:55:57 pm »
Thanks Nathan!

That's exactly the info I've been looking for. Your reply and original post are the first times I've seen any sort of confirmation stating the air box is, in fact, different. You the man.
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Re: Air filter help
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2014, 11:27:36 pm »
The folks on ADVrider thought I was being paranoid but I called up KTMtwins about it and lo and behold, a couple weeks later they took the 2014 off their fitment list for that air filter and offered me a refund. I picked up a (cheaper!) AU 1417, it shipped quickly and installed relatively easily.

Just goes to show - just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!